Adrienne Okay, noir fantasy doesn't look at all like Tolkien, because it needs too much moral grayness. It's things like big cities where most of the guards are on the take, and the aristocratic class is filthy rich and decadent, either useless or cruel.
Adrienne Magic is powerful, but people who are into it get scary.
Adrienne Gods are also scary, when their power runs wild.
Adrienne There's a big seething underclass, lots of crime, lots of desperate people.
Thirteen can we add uh
Thirteen this is going to sound stupid
Thirteen can we add a sense of optimism
Thirteen like, I want to feel like justice can end up being done and/or we can end up happy
Thirteen maybe not both
Adrienne We can do that, hehe. I was about to ask if "fantasy noir" sounded like anything in particular to you, now that I've made a sort of list.
Thirteen it all sounds really human focused
Thirteen I think it would be cool to work in nonhumans
Thirteen orcs and goblins and elves and dwarves
Thirteen but examine the relationship between them with a more postmodern eye, maybe
Thirteen I had two ideas which partly conflict
Adrienne Nonhumans are cool. Lay out the ideas.
Thirteen one is that we're in some magic metropolis where all the different races and crap pass through
Thirteen casablancaseque or whatever
Thirteen the other is that we're both elves in a human city and we have to deal with shit
Thirteen or alternately
Thirteen DARK elves
Thirteen which I guess are more appropriate for noir
Adrienne Oh, hm. Either of those sounds interesting.
Adrienne Jerk dark elves, or not?
Thirteen actually we could do both
Thirteen if we use dark elves
Thirteen jwrk like how
Adrienne I dunno, like standard eeeeeevil D&D dark elves. Because that would cut the optimism a bit, hehe. But you were thinking of mixing in some postmodern stuff?
Thirteen well I can't live without postmodernism really
Adrienne And dark elves in the city of "light" races lets us do both, yep.
Thirteen maybe the orcs and goblins are the underclasses
Thirteen it's one big metropolis
Thirteen dark elves are unknown for some reason
Thirteen or at least not common
Adrienne So we're either undercover or freaks?
Adrienne And the upper classes are dominated by the D&D PC races, basically? (Well, pre-4E.)
Adrienne I am definitely interested. Plus, being dark elves makes us speshul people, which I'm a sucker for. >.>
Adrienne Are we there as a team for some reason, or finding each other on our separate paths?
Thirteen yeah i know right
Thirteen what do you think
Thirteen I had a vision but I realized it involved us both doing a lot of stuff by ourselves
Thirteen which is doable
Thirteen if we wanted to
Thirteen I assumed we were there separately but we knew each other from before
Adrienne It's doable if people are willing to take turns doing some GM or NPC stuff, yeah?
Adrienne Separate but previously known is my preference, yeah. I like us having distinct missions, but TOR doesn't work (and is less fun anyway) without prior history to fill in.